Question for Jonah Goldberg

Rick Perlstein's picture

So I'm proofreading the final pages of my book Nixonland. I've just come to a passage from the Nixon tapes I transcribed at the National Archives. He's complaining to Henry Kissinger about the wimpiness of his staff: "goddman it, they're people who, they're in Washington, the Establishment's brainwashing them, they're reading the Washinton Post, the weekly magazines.... The Congress beats their goddamned brains out..."

His voice slowly rose in intensity so that, by the end of the following sentence, it overdrove the the Oval Office's microphones:

"And they get sort of discouraged and so forth, they don't realize that that is the time to get tough, to kick the guys...in the BALLS!!"

Bob Haldeman comes in to report on the overnight polls concerning the president's decision to overturn Lieutenant Calley's sentence from a jury of his military peers for murdering 59 civilians in cold blood. RN interrupts him:

"I don't have any use for weak men, Bob, I have no use for 'em. I don't want to have 'em around. I'd rather have a bunch of right-wing fascists around me than weak men. I really men. I mean that. I feel very strong about it."

So here's my question for Jonah Goldberg. Two, actually. You call Woodrow Wilson "the twentieth century’s first fascist dictator".

(1) Given the evidence to hand, who would you consider more of a fascist sympathizer: President Wilson or President Nixon?

(2) Should the ghost of Richard Nixon return to haunt this mortal pale, would you or would you not take it as your first duty to instruct him about his historical fallacy in associating fascism with the right?





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